tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14381128.post934512463379009151..comments2023-10-13T18:14:26.947+01:00Comments on The Occasional Blog of Phil Masters: Alice in WonderlandPhil Mastershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12533451060065715833noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14381128.post-12336570446466383702010-03-24T13:57:40.122+00:002010-03-24T13:57:40.122+00:00Granted, but do you hear people saying B&W fil...<i>Granted, but do you hear people saying B&W films should be colourised? That's effectively what's happening with the films that were already in production when Avatar exploded: an entirely separate team is taking the 2D film and making a 3D film out of it.</i><br /><br />Point taken. I've been thinking in terms of the relatively modest series of pre-<i>Avatar</i> 3D-from-the-first movies, which, good or bad, don't represent anyone buggering about with the integrity of anyone else's vision.<br /><br /><i>(I assume that the inevitable DVD release will be of the original, at least for now...)</i><br /><br />Actually, my DVD of <i>Coraline</i> came with two discs - one of a full-colour 2D version, the other to go with the accompanying red-and-green cardboard specs...<br /><br /><i>I think that a 3D theatrical recording could be excellent, but wouldn't have much market given that it needs to appeal to cinema-going audiences.</i><br /><br />There's a small program of live theatrical transmissions from places like major opera houses and the National Theatre to arthouse cinemas around the world. Given that this has been going for a while and is still continuing, I assume that it's at least covering the costs of multiple HD cameras feeding through high-bandwidth channels to digital projectors. It'd be interesting to know how feasible it'd be to take that up to 3D.<br /><br />(And we're also already seeing concert movies by bubblegum pop acts going out to cinemas in 3D. Those have guaranteed huge teenybopper audiences, of course.)Phil Mastershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533451060065715833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14381128.post-88333308538091048122010-03-24T12:14:49.833+00:002010-03-24T12:14:49.833+00:00"I don't hear anyone saying that all movi..."I don't hear anyone saying that all movies should still be made in B&W..."<br /><br />Granted, but do you hear people saying B&W films should be colourised? That's effectively what's happening with the films that were already in production when Avatar exploded: an entirely separate team is taking the 2D film and making a 3D film out of it. (I assume that the inevitable DVD release will be of the original, at least for now...)<br /><br />What I'm going reluctantly to call "true" 3D needs to be decided at the latest when photography starts, and really ought to influence set and even costume design too (given how much light one loses with current 3D hardware). It is substantially more expensive than conversion (at least double the camera costs, double the CGI rendering time, and there aren't as many people who can do it yet so they cost more too); I expect to see a lot more conversion jobs than true 3D for a good few years yet.<br /><br />I think that a 3D theatrical recording could be excellent, but wouldn't have much market given that it needs to appeal to cinema-going audiences. Once 3D comes to home systems, perhaps...RogerBWhttp://tekeli.li/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14381128.post-75931829228869011652010-03-11T09:18:52.970+00:002010-03-11T09:18:52.970+00:00Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know that. ...Okay, I'll admit that I didn't know that. Heck, I didn't know that it was <i>possible</i> to convert 2D to 3D - though I guess it explains the distinctly artificial look of the thing, which I had down as a stylistic choice. And presumably a lot of the conversion involved tinkering with the post-production FX work.<br /><br />I can see that modern 3D technology is being used as a crude anti-piracy measure, which I think is unfortunate. I wouldn't say that 3D is 50% better than 2D or anything, but I've enjoyed several 3D films as aesthetic experiences in their own right, and I think that competent directors can use the thing to perfectly good effect.<br /><br />(Colour isn't "better" than black-and-white, but I don't hear anyone saying that all movies should still be made in B&W...)<br /><br />I'm still waiting for someone to apply 3D technology to recording a theatrical performance, which I think might work rather well, if it was done with a bit of taste. 3D seems to have been used for a couple of bubblegum pop concerts already, so this should be entirely feasible.Phil Mastershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533451060065715833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14381128.post-6662627810700522432010-03-10T10:51:15.701+00:002010-03-10T10:51:15.701+00:00It's worth bearing in mind, I think, that this...It's worth bearing in mind, I think, that this was made as a normal 2D film and then converted to 3D without the involvement of Burton. In the wake of Avatar, and considering the unfounded panic about piracy that continues to infest the film studios, we're going to be seeing a lot more of this.<br /><br />Not that it would have been vastly better if it hadn't been messed around with, of course. Burton does the generic Burton thing, Depp does the generic Depp thing, and this time they've pasted Carroll on top of it.RogerBWhttp://tekeli.li/cnoreply@blogger.com